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Post by coombes on Sept 24, 2023 9:18:28 GMT 1
The idea of the play offs is to build the season up to a climax, with tracks having their best crowds of the year and the season finishing on a high. But its not turning out that way. Teams are being required to race on nights other than their recognised race night. Fixtures can't be set in advance so riders have often fixed up meetings in other countries. Guests and RR abound, but not always for injury, just the guys have already got something on that night. Our play off fixtures are not being given any respect. The root of the problem is having to arrange fixtures at short notice. .
By their nature not all clubs can stage the final tie, so you leave the stadium not knowing if you season is over.- possibly this will be the case on Tuesday, assuming the weather plays ball.Will that be our last night? Will the season have petered out on us?
The playoffs have been so devalued that it's time for a rethink. Can't the KO Cup be used for the big finale, rather than being a copy of the playoffs, often featuring the same teams?
While the league set up for next year is very uncertain, if we still have two senior divisions, then the Championship should go for 2H 2A with no playoffs, the team topping the league being the champions - how novel! All fixtures will be set at the beginning of the year, including the KO Cup draw... and hopefully adhered to.
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Post by dirtywhensecond on Sept 24, 2023 10:03:53 GMT 1
The idea of the play offs is to build the season up to a climax, with tracks having their best crowds of the year and the season finishing on a high. But its nit turning out that way. Teams are being required to race on nights other than their recognised race night. Fixtures can't be set in advance so riders have often fixed up meetings in other countries. Guests and RR abound, but not always for injury, just the guys have already got something on that night. Our play off fixtures not being given any respect. The root of the problem is having to arrange fixtures at short notice. . By their nature not all clubs can stage the final the, so you leave the stadium not knowing if you season is over.- possibly this will be the case on Tuesday, assuming the weather plays ball.Will that be our last night? Will the season have petered out on us? The playoffs have been so devalued that it's time for a rethink. Can't the KO Cup be used for the big finale, rather than being a copy of the playoffs, often featuring the same teams? While the league set up for next year is very uncertain, if we still have two senior divisions, then the Championship should go for 2H 2A with no playoffs, the team topping the league being the champions - how novel! All fixtures will be set at the beginning of the year, including the KO Cup draw... and hopefully adhered to. For those reading who don't know, what coombes is referring to is that if we cannot complete the Oxford home tie by next Saturday (incl?) we forfeit the tie.
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Post by coombes on Sept 24, 2023 10:59:28 GMT 1
Just picked up on that DWS. It's a complete nonsense and probably wasn't know at the outset of agreeing play off fixtures. Strange that it seems to favour Poole! If invoked, it makes a farce of the play offs.
Also worrying is the way this news is released. Just filtered out through BSN. No one at BSPL is brave enough to put their name to it. It's a growing trend that Glasgow are also seem to favour. Someone in the "inner circle" posts on FB replying to a question, rather than official sources confirming any given news item. Really poor.
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Post by dirtywhensecond on Sept 24, 2023 11:14:43 GMT 1
Just picked up on that DWS. It's a complete nonsense and probably wasn't know at the outset of agreeing play off fixtures. Strange that it seems to favour Poole! If invoked, it makes a farce of the play offs. Also worrying is the way this news is released. Just filtered out through BSN. No one at BSPL is brave enough to put their name to it. It's a growing trend that Glasgow are also seem to favour. Someone in the "inner circle" posts on FB replying to a question, rather than official sources confirming any given news item. Really poor. Not worry the forecast for the rest of the week is glorious wall to wall sunshine..... or perhaps it's pishing down...... like it usually is in the 4th week of September in Scotland grrr. Whodathunkit?!?
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Post by md on Sept 24, 2023 11:38:27 GMT 1
The idea of the play offs is to build the season up to a climax, with tracks having their best crowds of the year and the season finishing on a high. But its nit turning out that way. Teams are being required to race on nights other than their recognised race night. Fixtures can't be set in advance so riders have often fixed up meetings in other countries. Guests and RR abound, but not always for injury, just the guys have already got something on that night. Our play off fixtures not being given any respect. The root of the problem is having to arrange fixtures at short notice. . By their nature not all clubs can stage the final the, so you leave the stadium not knowing if you season is over.- possibly this will be the case on Tuesday, assuming the weather plays ball.Will that be our last night? Will the season have petered out on us? The playoffs have been so devalued that it's time for a rethink. Can't the KO Cup be used for the big finale, rather than being a copy of the playoffs, often featuring the same teams? While the league set up for next year is very uncertain, if we still have two senior divisions, then the Championship should go for 2H 2A with no playoffs, the team topping the league being the champions - how novel! All fixtures will be set at the beginning of the year, including the KO Cup draw... and hopefully adhered to. Totally agree Coombes, also devalues the sport for fans who have been there all season but are unable to turn out at a random time on an off night, or day at very short notice.
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Post by benbulben on Sept 24, 2023 11:42:07 GMT 1
Be a right laugh if it rained in Poole all week.
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Post by coombes on Sept 24, 2023 12:48:40 GMT 1
While I'd have a chuckle too, don't Poole just have to win at Armadale to go through? I think that would give them seven points and Scunthorpe are finished on six. What happens about the Poole - Edinburgh bonus point if the Poole leg isn't raced? It's all getting farcical now.
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Post by md on Sept 24, 2023 15:32:03 GMT 1
What happens about the Poole - Edinburgh bonus point if the Poole leg isn't raced? Whatever is in the best interests of the sport 😬!
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Post by coombes on Sept 24, 2023 19:05:10 GMT 1
The idea of the play offs is to build the season up to a climax, with tracks having their best crowds of the year and the season finishing on a high. But its nit turning out that way. Teams are being required to race on nights other than their recognised race night. Fixtures can't be set in advance so riders have often fixed up meetings in other countries. Guests and RR abound, but not always for injury, just the guys have already got something on that night. Our play off fixtures not being given any respect. The root of the problem is having to arrange fixtures at short notice. . By their nature not all clubs can stage the final the, so you leave the stadium not knowing if you season is over.- possibly this will be the case on Tuesday, assuming the weather plays ball.Will that be our last night? Will the season have petered out on us? The playoffs have been so devalued that it's time for a rethink. Can't the KO Cup be used for the big finale, rather than being a copy of the playoffs, often featuring the same teams? While the league set up for next year is very uncertain, if we still have two senior divisions, then the Championship should go for 2H 2A with no playoffs, the team topping the league being the champions - how novel! All fixtures will be set at the beginning of the year, including the KO Cup draw... and hopefully adhered to. For those reading who don't know, what coombes is referring to is that if we cannot complete the Oxford home tie by next Saturday (incl?) we forfeit the tie.A big call for the promotion. Right now Tuesday forecast looks worse than Friday. Saturday possibly ruled out as Chris Harris may be absent for he next days Long Track World Team Final. Do we risk leaving things till Friday or give Tuesday a go? Whatever, let's hope there is no repeat of the Poole rain off fiasco of last year.
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Post by md on Sept 24, 2023 21:18:57 GMT 1
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Post by coombes on Sept 25, 2023 18:17:55 GMT 1
Conspiracy theory time : strange that the idea of a firm cut off only seems to have arisen after Poole looked certain to make the final by winning at Scunthorpe last Friday. If they hadn't won, would we have a cut off? Has this been dreamed up so that Poole have a meeting next Wednesday. Perhaps, perhaps not.
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Post by dirtywhensecond on Sept 25, 2023 18:33:09 GMT 1
What's our thoughts about the likelihood of tomorrow being on? With the imposition of the cut off will we be forced to run the worst processional rubbish just to get it on.......?
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Post by coombes on Sept 25, 2023 19:45:15 GMT 1
Will running in the rain actually work. Won't the riders want it to be stopped, particularly the Oxford guys. We've been down this road before when Poole were up last year. Didn't end up well. The positive is that Chris is now the captain and he seems more amenable to riding in the wet. Tom was less so.
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Post by benbulben on Sept 25, 2023 20:08:12 GMT 1
Cheetahs using RR for Jenkins who hurt his arm last night v Redcar
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Post by citytiger on Sept 26, 2023 0:05:49 GMT 1
Will running in the rain actually work. Won't the riders want it to be stopped, particularly the Oxford guys. We've been down this road before when Poole were up last year. Didn't end up well. The positive is that Chris is now the captain and he seems more amenable to riding in the wet. Tom was less so. I believe captains are meant to represent the views of their team mates. I got the impression that Tom (and others) were 'put under pressure' by a senior member of last year's team. Chris I agree will be more amenable to racing and perhaps able to convince his younger team mates that they should give it a go (hopefully). In any case the last forecast I saw (Met Office for Possil Park, Glasgow) suggests it should be dry all night with strong winds up until mid-day when there is likely to be rain. Thereafter there is the chance of a shower or two with strong gusts and mild temperature for this time of the year. So hopefully we will be good to go.
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