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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Sept 14, 2020 14:01:08 GMT 1
Thanks to everyone who has had a go at this "fun" quiz.
The list so far is:
Bobby Beaton Shane Bowes Colin Caffrey James Grieves Steve Lawson Charlie McKinna Kenny McKinna Martin McKinna Bill McMillan Jim McMillan Bruce Ovenden Mick Powell Willie Templeton
Well done to Benbulben for identifying Bruce Ovenden, a very short-term Tiger compared to the rest of the list.
I've used the excellent Speedway Researcher website and have confirmed the claims for Jimmy Mac, Bobby Beaton, Wullie T and Bruce.
Coombes was also spot on that Maury Mattingley rode in every jacket except number 5.
I'm sure there will be others, probably from the 46-54 era and surely someone other than Grievesy from the Ashfield years?
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Post by daveallan on Sept 14, 2020 17:02:06 GMT 1
Another possible one for the 1-7 list - Brian Collins? Can't find any meetings in which Pogo rode at either 2 or 6. He rode a single meeting at number 4. Collins at #2 2nd August 1985 v Berwick. But no #6 as you said, ergo it's no-go for Pogo. If the information on Speedway Researcher is correct (and I've no reason to doubt it is) then Tommy Miller rode from 1-8 in 1950.
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Post by benbulben on Sept 14, 2020 18:05:47 GMT 1
Two more from 1946 and 1947 , Bill Baird and Eddie Lack rode from 1-8 also.
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Post by benbulben on Sept 14, 2020 18:32:28 GMT 1
Update......two more 1-8s Cecil 'Gruff'Garland and Harold Fairhurst
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Post by benbulben on Sept 14, 2020 21:29:11 GMT 1
Latest.....add Keith 'Buck' Ryan, Gordon McGregor, Ken McKinlay
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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Sept 14, 2020 21:55:42 GMT 1
Can't find any meetings in which Pogo rode at either 2 or 6. He rode a single meeting at number 4. Collins at #2 2nd August 1985 v Berwick. But no #6 as you said, ergo it's no-go for Pogo. If the information on Speedway Researcher is correct (and I've no reason to doubt it is) then Tommy Miller rode from 1-8 in 1950. "ergo it's no-go for Pogo" - Brilliant. Good spot with that appearance at number 2. I see he also wore number 8 that season.
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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Sept 14, 2020 21:57:50 GMT 1
Latest.....add Keith 'Buck' Ryan, Gordon McGregor, Ken McKinlay Blimey Benbulben, you're far too good at this. I had thought it might have been quite an exclusive list, but you've blown that theory out the water. Can you find any riders that didn't ride at all 7 numbers?
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Post by benbulben on Sept 15, 2020 9:23:07 GMT 1
Oh, i'm not finished yet , CT ! Breakfast then another trawl of the archives. It started as a bit of fun but now I am obsessed !
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Post by benbulben on Sept 15, 2020 12:17:23 GMT 1
Amend your records, gentlemen. A big haul caught between 1946-54. viz.Alf McIntosh, Peter Dykes, Jack and Frank Hodgson,Len Nicholson, Don Wilkinson and, beat this Monarchs , Doug Templeton. Shows flexibility afforded in those days and riding order not imposed by averages.
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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Sept 15, 2020 18:21:20 GMT 1
Oh, i'm not finished yet , CT ! Breakfast then another trawl of the archives. It started as a bit of fun but now I am obsessed ! Glad it's keeping you entertained, genuinely can't believe how many you've managed to find! We'll need to think of similar challenges to get everyone digging into their archives and bringing back the memories. I think the updated list is now as follows: Bill Baird Bobby Beaton Shane Bowes Colin Caffrey Peter Dykes Harold Fairhurst Gruff Garland James Grieves Frank Hodgson Jack Hodgson Eddie Lack Steve Lawson Gordon McGregor Alf McIntosh Ken McKinlay Charlie McKinna Kenny McKinna Martin McKinna Bill McMillan Jim McMillan Tommy Miller Len Nicholson Bruce Ovenden Mick Powell Buck Ryan Doug Templeton Willie Templeton Don Wilkinson
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Post by benbulben on Sept 15, 2020 20:38:59 GMT 1
Daveallan mentioned Tommy Miller but he is not on the list. I will check tomorrow. I must rest now.
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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Sept 15, 2020 21:47:04 GMT 1
Daveallan mentioned Tommy Miller but he is not on the list. I will check tomorrow. I must rest now. I've added Tommy.
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Post by benbulben on Sept 16, 2020 8:49:51 GMT 1
Good man. Quite incredible that it took Tommy only one season to do it and his debut season at that.
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Post by dirtywhensecond on Sept 16, 2020 9:06:25 GMT 1
Good man. Quite incredible that it took Tommy only one season to do it and his debut season at that. For the uninitiated, how did the numbers work, back in the day? I presume there's always been a race format, so it can't have been a total free for all. Before my time but how can the same rider wear all 7 different race jackets in the same season? Wow!
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Post by benbulben on Sept 16, 2020 10:22:33 GMT 1
They were 8 man teams over 14 heats with the bottom two at reserve. Thereafter the promoter could put the riders in any order he liked unlike today where heatleaders must be at 1, 3 and 5. Even as late as 1964 Maury Mattingley , our second heatleader , often rode at 2 with second string Bill McMillan at # 1. Race format saw reserves often only have two programmed rides. No tactical rides or subs in those days nor guests. Simple , straightforward and many massive home wins.
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