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Post by georgem on Jul 27, 2010 21:57:27 GMT 1
at least we now know the rule for future years .... if the goal posts aren't moved!!! Thanks for taking the time to explain Gordon.
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Post by Gordon Pairman on Jul 27, 2010 23:01:28 GMT 1
at least we now know the rule for future years .... if the goal posts aren't moved!!! Thanks for taking the time to explain Gordon. I couldn't possibly comment on that
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Post by snapper on Jul 27, 2010 23:38:57 GMT 1
Yep, me again!!! Just noticed that round two of the world Under 21 championship is at Daugavpils on Aug 14th - the night before the Fours - and Bach (Newcastle) and Wobert are riding in it and unlikely to be at Peterboro the next day. Anyone foresee a rule change coming up allowing rider replacement in the Fours!!!! Seriously, its a bit hard to see how either team can be allowed to compete with such a weakened Four I think the U 21 meeting is now the week before.
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Post by mervjankefanclub on Jul 27, 2010 23:42:32 GMT 1
I also noticed that it was down for the 7th on the worldspeedway.com site, but on Lokomotiv Daugavpils own site they still have the meeting advertised for the 14th and they even have a clock counting down the days, hours and minutes to it
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Post by djw on Jul 28, 2010 0:39:14 GMT 1
Kevin Wolbert's website also has the 14th. I had an idea we wouldn't be in the 4s as it was mentioned for the Pairs that Joe hadn't ridden 8 matches, so this was going to be the same. If it hadn't been for all those rain offs we would've easily got in. Katajisto is in their 1-4 because he's a heat leader next month.
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mick
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Post by mick on Jul 28, 2010 4:30:13 GMT 1
l hope edinburgh get absolutely gubbed
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Post by KevPat on Jul 28, 2010 9:21:20 GMT 1
Surely no other team can run in conjunction to the 4s as its a shared event isn't it? Unfortunate and gotta admit (yep, and it's tough) that Glasgow would have added to the line-up... Without disrespect to the likes of Berwick, I could see an argument for Glasgow's inclusion rather than theirs. However, rules are rules I guess... It's just a pity that the criteria wasn't released earlier so to stop any ambiguity... However, if the qualifiers were brough back... They'd have been raced when Glasgow were struggling for form and pre-fat Joe era... So likelihood against a strong Newcastle quartet, you'd not have qualified anyway... It'd have been a scrap for highest runner-up between Glasgow and us... Nice constructive post there Mick!!!!!!!! yawn..... Bring back the qualifiers, so to rid the forums of pointless threads wondering why their teams aren't there, when others are... Surely the qualifiers make sense? But sense doesn't come into it, as surely it would've made business sense to ensure Kings Lynn are there... After all, they are the closest PL team in proximity to the EoES... As for the U21??? I always thought the 2nd round was on 14th... So the Saturday before... If so, there are flights back to London on Sunday morning from Riga, which would be the option to get both Wölbert and Bach to the Showground for this meeting... Surely it would benefit only if the top men are there from each team... Of course, that is unless Kevin doesn't have any Polish meetings to race on the 15th!!!!!!!!
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Post by jock on Jul 28, 2010 9:47:52 GMT 1
Find myself in agreement with Kevpat qualifiers to be restored. You know it makes sense plus why Peterborough ? A poor racing circuit in my opinion.
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Post by billc on Jul 28, 2010 10:23:41 GMT 1
Does this mean we can race King's Lynn at Ashfield? Or will the BSPA put the mockers on that idea, too? The plot thickens... The King's Lynn website has the Stars visiting on September 12... the date for the Ashfield Classic. In Sunday's Programme it listed the re-arranged fixtures as follows Away - Newport Friday 20th August Away - King's Lynn Wed 8 Sept Home - King's Lynn Sun 12 Sept Home - Sheffield 19 Sept Home - Edinburgh(Scottish Cup) 10 Oct Home - Ashfield Classic 17 Oct.
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Post by fergus on Jul 28, 2010 10:29:33 GMT 1
However, if the qualifiers were brough back... They'd have been raced when Glasgow were struggling for form and pre-fat Joe era... So likelihood against a strong Newcastle quartet, you'd not have qualified anyway... It'd have been a scrap for highest runner-up between Glasgow and us... I'm not really sure why you feel the need to use a derogatory term anytime you come onto the forum and refer to Joe Screen - bit childish is it not? As for us struggling in the qualifiers Joe made his debut for us on 12th June - were the qualifiers not usually raced mid to late June? Anyway, your last prediction on how Glasgow would perform in a meeting (Sheffield away) was well wide of the mark. Probably safer for you to predict what might have happened in a series of meetings that were never raced?! Bring back the qualifiers, so to rid the forums of pointless threads wondering why their teams aren't there, when others are... Surely the qualifiers make sense? It's disappointing that the rules don't allow a rider who made his debut for us almost 7 weeks ago to be eligible for this competition but the rain offs have unfortunately left us a couple of meetings short. As for the 4s in general give me meaningful full team matches any day. This competition is like Speedway's equivalent of the Tennent's 6s (for those that can't remember it - forerunner to Masters football with current players as opposed to has beens). I can remember some dire meetings during the era when the qualifiers were run. If a team were missing a heatleader or 2 they would turn into cannon fodder and some of the heats were very inbalanced eg 3 x 8.5 point men + 1 x 5 point man tailed off at the back. Then the final (which the hosts often won) would be run on a completely different format to the qualifiers! 2 x groups of 4 teams racing over 8 heats then a final over 12 heats if I remember correctly? At least Ian Thomas is honest enough to admit that he came up with the idea for this competition when Newcastle had an extremely strong top 4! We could maybe suggest the Premier League Reserve Riders Championship - Nick must have a chance?!
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Post by jock on Jul 28, 2010 13:48:03 GMT 1
Never noticed Kevpat's lack of manners or maybe I am so used to his misbehaviour that I take it for granted. Poor form to come to someone's house then insult one of the hosts favourite sons !
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Post by KevPat on Jul 28, 2010 14:08:47 GMT 1
I'm not really sure why you feel the need to use a derogatory term anytime you come onto the forum and refer to Joe Screen - bit childish is it not? As for us struggling in the qualifiers Joe made his debut for us on 12th June - were the qualifiers not usually raced mid to late June? Anyway, your last prediction on how Glasgow would perform in a meeting (Sheffield away) was well wide of the mark. Probably safer for you to predict what might have happened in a series of meetings that were never raced?! Friendly fire against a class rider - that's all it is. Any team in the division would welcome a rider of the calibre of the lean Mr. Screen including ourselves... However, in this case, that's all it is - friendly admiration of the guys talents... If I were to turn the tables, and ask anyone's thoughts on Ryan Fisher??? I'll begin bullet dodging now... Fair point about the qualifiers... Wasn't totally sure when they were... Still agree, Glasgow and Kings Lynn would've enhanced the day. Again - fair play on your performance at Sheffield... If we can repeat it, then I'll be happy - doubt it somehow, but you never know in speedway. Maybe I should start joining in the prediction league over here next season? I'd be impartial;) We could maybe suggest the Premier League Reserve Riders Championship - Nick must have a chance?! Morris v Katajisto... Now that would be a good match up... Which neutral track would that be held on???
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Post by KevPat on Jul 28, 2010 14:10:32 GMT 1
Never noticed Kevpat's lack of manners or maybe I am so used to his misbehaviour that I take it for granted. Poor form to come to someone's house then insult one of the hosts favourite sons ! When have I misbehaved Matron?
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Post by fergus on Jul 28, 2010 15:20:15 GMT 1
Friendly fire against a class rider - that's all it is. Any team in the division would welcome a rider of the calibre of the lean Mr. Screen including ourselves... However, in this case, that's all it is - friendly admiration of the guys talents... If I were to turn the tables, and ask anyone's thoughts on Ryan Fisher??? I'll begin bullet dodging now...?! Friendly admiration of the guy's talents = referring to him as Fat Joe?! I'm sure you are capable of something a bit more witty as opposed to going for the personal insult?! Fair point about the qualifiers... Wasn't totally sure when they were... Still agree, Glasgow and Kings Lynn would've enhanced the day. Don't think King's Lynn will be missed that much now they are minus Kevin Doolan but I would think we might have been amongst the contenders. Morris v Katajisto... Now that would be a good match up... Which neutral track would that be held on??? Sorry, I forgot to mention the qualification criteria for this meeting: 1. Only riders who are in a reserve berth according to the August green sheet averages are eligible - Kalle Katajisto is unfortunately ineligible. 2. Only riders who have ridden in the PL for less than 2 years are elegible - Andrew Tully is unfortunately ineligible. Looks like Cal McDade will be representing Edinburgh then
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Post by Gary on Jul 28, 2010 15:42:51 GMT 1
If I were to turn the tables, and ask anyone's thoughts on Ryan Fisher??? I'll begin bullet dodging now... And if I were to turn the tables right back at you......how would you, as a mod, and the rest of the Chat-terati react if I or any of the other Glasgow mods came on the Chatzone and started constantly referring to Ryan Fisher as 'That fat dwarf' or even 'the Failed Elite League star'? Would these comments be allowed to stand or would y'all be straight out there giving it 'Choppy Choppy' to the comment quicker than Kevin Wolbert can down a slightly undercooked chicken schnitzel at the Airport? :-) In all seriousness, I'm all for Edinburgh fans like KevPat and Young51 coming on and having a go at the Tigers. The Monarchs get it tight on here so why should they not give a bit back. Unlike many of their fellow Chatzoomers who come on here to whinge about the big nasty Glasgow fans and how we are obsessed with all things Embra, you do get the impression with these guys that it's just a bit of banter. It generates a bit of discussion and as long as they are thick skinned enough to realise their point of view probably won't be the most popular on the forum then I'm all for it. So as you know we are all about the banter on this board so by all means keep the Fat Joe comments coming though I should warn you that we are all going to refer to you now as cowPat. Nothing nasty in it obviously, just friendly fire against a fellow speedway forum Moderator!
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