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Post by daveallan on Oct 24, 2020 2:06:03 GMT 1
I'm beginning to put together a 1991 season file. I'm working from marked programmes at the moment but unfortunately the hand writing is indecipherable in places.
An early query if anyone can help - the name of a second half rider I have in a couple of programmes. It looks like it could possibly maybe be PETER SLEET or FLEET. He appears in these two second halves:
25th August (Long Eaton) - in white in the 2 printed races (1 & 3) with Irving (R), Straughan (B) & McDonald (YB).
9th October (Arena Essex) - in blue in race 2 with Raymond Fosbury (R) in a two rider heat.
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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Oct 24, 2020 10:20:02 GMT 1
I've got him marked down as Peter Sweet in both programmes.
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Post by daveallan on Oct 24, 2020 16:25:27 GMT 1
OK thanks. The marker of the programmes suggested to me earlier that the rider in question was a Tigers supporter of 'advancing years' (i.e. in his forties) who had decided to give the sport a go out at Linlithgow. He was sure he was a regular on the away buses. Pity he can't read his own flippin' handwriting though!
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Post by daveallan on Oct 30, 2020 4:14:21 GMT 1
4th August v Middlesbrough - I need to confirm a couple of heats if anyone can assist:
League match heat 4: Bowes, Powell, Carter, Chapman (Speedway Star has Chapman/Carter)
Junior match heat 2: McDonald, Irving, Rathbone, Swales (SS has Swales/Rathbone)
Junior match heats 4 & 5: did Rathbone fall in both heats? (My prog says yes, SS says no.)
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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Oct 30, 2020 9:06:22 GMT 1
I have:
Heat 4: Chapman 3rd and Carter 4th
Heat 2: Swales 3rd and Rathbone 4th
I also have Rathbone falling in heats 4 and 5
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Post by benbulben on Oct 30, 2020 12:26:28 GMT 1
Agreed with Coatbridge Tiger re Chapman/Carter order . Howevah, in junior match I just have Rathbone as 0 in H 4, 5. Perhaps he fell and remounted. He replaced Stuart Swales in H4 as Stuart had fallen in H3 and withdrew.
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Post by daveallan on Oct 30, 2020 14:35:58 GMT 1
Thanks chaps. Incidentally Rathbone didn't replace Swales in heat 4, Swales in YB was a typo and it should have been Rathbone.
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Post by daveallan on Oct 31, 2020 0:38:14 GMT 1
Main requirements now:
02/05 at Sheffield - Glasgow #8 12/05 v Reading - Reading #8 20/05 at Newcastle 4TT - Middlesbrough & Edinburgh reserves & reserves races results 23/05 at Middlesbrough 4TT - Glasgow & Middlesbrough & Edinburgh reserves & reserves races results 31/05 at Edinburgh 4TT - Middlesbrough & Newcastle reserves & reserves races results 02/06 v Sheffield - 2nd half Ht 01: full result & any other races staged 20/10 v Arena Essex - 2nd half additional race time
Additional: I'm missing the 19/06 v Rye House programme - if it carries the final Gold Cup averages can someone post a scan/picture of them for me please?
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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Oct 31, 2020 13:30:50 GMT 1
12/05 No Reading number 8 in my programme
31/05 Incomplete programme says Simon Green (Boro) and Richard Juul (Newc). Reserve races not marked.
02/06 Straughan 2nd; Coleman 1st; Grieves 3rd; Sweet EF - 71.4 Straughan 1st; Coleman 2nd; Grieves 3rd; Sweet DNS - 72
20/10 Svein Kaasa - Lawson 1st; S Courtney 3rd; Karger 2nd; Petersen 4th - 72.6 Grieves 1st; Irving 3rd; Coleman 2nd - 3 riders only - No time recorded Grieves 2nd; Irving 3rd; Coleman 1st - 3 riders only - No time recorded
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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Oct 31, 2020 13:33:27 GMT 1
Gold Cup Averages from Rye House Programme Attachments:
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Post by Flying Tiger on Oct 31, 2020 22:26:01 GMT 1
02/05 at Sheffield - Glasgow #8 & 12/05 v Reading - Reading #8 - my programme's blank for both
20/05 at Newcastle 4TT - Middlesbrough & Edinburgh reserves & reserves races results Edinburgh reserve was Johnny Jorgensen & it was originally Simon Green for Middlesbrough, but he replaced Jamie Luckhurst in the main quartet and no-one was named in Green's place in my programme. No details for the reserve races23/05 at Middlesbrough 4TT - Glasgow, Middlesbrough & Edinburgh reserves & reserves races results - Jason Lyons, Simon Green & Nigel Alderton respectively, no results31/05 at Edinburgh 4TT - Middlesbrough & Newcastle reserves & reserves races results Race 1: Jorgensen (R) 65.6, Juul (W), Lyons (YB), Green (B) fell Race 2: Lyons (YB) 64.3, Jorgensen (R), Juul (W), only 3 riders02/06 v Sheffield - 2nd half Ht 01: full result & any other races staged 20/10 v Arena Essex - 2nd half additional race time - results (with no times noted) concur with Coatbridge TigerAdditional: I'm missing the 19/06 v Rye House programme - if it carries the final Gold Cup averages can someone post a scan/picture of them for me please?
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Post by daveallan on Nov 1, 2020 7:11:36 GMT 1
Thanks again. This is a list of 2nd half details plus a couple of matches featuring the vintage bikes that I'm missing if anyone has the information. 1991 Glasgow 2nd Hlaf Requirements.pdf (33.88 KB)
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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Nov 1, 2020 12:41:37 GMT 1
Don't have details for many of these 2nd halves. Not sure if that suggests that no races were staged on some nights.
For the 16th of June meeting. I have a single race, which was 2 riders only and was awarded to James Grieves (blue) as Stuart Coleman (red) demolished the fence on the third bend.
07/08 Irving 2 Straughan 3 Grieves 1 McDonald 0 72.0
Irving 1 Straughan 2 Grieves 3 McDonald 0 71.2
18/08 Irving 3 No rider in blue Sweet 1 McDonald 2 73.2
Irving 3 No rider in blue Sweet 1 McDonald 2
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Post by Coatbridge Tiger on Nov 1, 2020 15:02:52 GMT 1
The programme for the Arena leg of the cup final replay has nowhere to record any second half race results.
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Post by Flying Tiger on Nov 2, 2020 11:23:14 GMT 1
Thanks again. This is a list of 2nd half details plus a couple of matches featuring the vintage bikes that I'm missing if anyone has the information. View Attachment I just have details of a couple of the missing fixtures unfortunately...
21.4.1991 Heat 1: Csaba Hell (YB) 68.8, Jason Straughan (B), Michael Irving (R), Stuart Coleman (W) - he replaced Steve Reynolds. Heat 2: Hell (YB) no time, Staughan (B), Irving (R) Fn, Muir Templeton (W) Fx
19.6.1991 Tigers Cubs 14 v 16 Rye House - no times recorded, both teams only had 3 riders. Heat 1: Wayne Baxter (W), Straughan (R), James Grieves (B), Martin Cobbin (YB) - #4 Grieves replaced programmed #2 Stuart Coleman Heat 2: Cobbin (W), Stewart McDonald (R), Tony Kingsbury (YB) - Grieves didn't ride, Rye House didn't have anyone at #3 Heat 3: Straughan (R), Kingsbury (YB), Cobbin (W), McDonald (B) Heat 4: Grieves (B), Baxter (W), Kingsbury (YB) - no rider in Red Heat 5: Straughan (R), Kingsbury (YB), Cobbin (W), Grieves (B) - nominated race
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