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Post by davie on Jan 17, 2011 20:15:04 GMT 1
whats your problem herbie it was a valid question and unfortunately dougie is right about the amount off people that say they will come and help then never turn up , ashfield is one of the easiest tracks to work as you turn up fill your position then go home afterwards there is no harps to put down or take up so you can be in the barr as soon as the racing / practicing finishes and whats with the self righteous comments i take that personally as i have given 22 year to the sport and still go and help so dont start calling names at those who help to make speedway happen in glasgow
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Post by herbie on Jan 17, 2011 20:33:08 GMT 1
My problem is exactly as I stated it-good luck to those who can and want to help with the track, but there are plenty of people who don't for any one of a lot of reasons, every one of which is perfectly valid for them. If I'm looking to recruit people to help me with something my starting position is not one of having a go because people aren't there-I know track staff help make speedway happen at Glasgow, but just remember, they're not the only ones. A lot of people help in a whole lot of different ways. Maybe each to their own? And sorry, you DO sound self -righteous with some of the comments. Sorry if I do, but then, I'm not the one looking for help.
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Post by davie on Jan 17, 2011 20:37:56 GMT 1
state your case then when have i been self righteous anything i state is what i see nothing more or less i dont come on here having a go at anyone
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Post by Graham on Jan 17, 2011 23:46:00 GMT 1
Is there going to be a proper pits gate at Ashfield next season? If so it's going to require someone to man it throughout the meeting. That will almost certainly be a dedicated task, hard to combine with other duties e.g. raking or pushing. So that will be another well-disciplined individual we need.
Being on the track staff can be hugely rewarding, but it is a big commitment. You need to be organised, reliable and punctual, and be prepared to muck in when necessary. To be honest we've been short-staffed for years at Glasgow, and I'd welcome anyone who was willing to come along every Sunday and put in a shift.
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Post by davie on Jan 18, 2011 18:06:59 GMT 1
no gate at the pits same style overlap but the pits will have a new look to them and laid out a bit differently hopefully to help run things a bit more smoothly
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Post by Dougie on Jan 18, 2011 18:17:20 GMT 1
Herbie you are entitled to your opinion,if you want to just watch thats fair enough,but this topic was not aimed at people like you ,only those who wanted to help.slagging Davie [ who i had the pleasure to work beside for many years ] is not on you want to see the amount of work he and the rest of the staff do before you comment.
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Post by herbie on Jan 18, 2011 23:53:22 GMT 1
I'm not disputing the amount of work certain people may do but it still doesn't give them the right to get on the case of those who can't or don't want to join them on track duty. If you put a topic on this forum then it is very probable that it is going to be read by "people like me" who are unable to help in one direction but who can maybe help in another-if I can't work on the track because of some physical disablity, for example, but can maybe sell a few 50/50 tickets or do a piece for the programme, does that make my contribution less valuable because I'm not out on the track?-just because I can't (or won't) do what you do, you are not entitled to automatically assume that contribution (or that of simply coming through the gate and paying your £15+ to watch) is any less valid. I'm not slagging off anybody for their contribution to the cause, but I will certainly get on the case of people assuming because they are doing something to help the Tigers that somehow makes them more entitled to get at others.
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Post by Dougie on Jan 19, 2011 0:11:19 GMT 1
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Post by mick on Jan 19, 2011 3:59:56 GMT 1
I'm not disputing the amount of work certain people may do but it still doesn't give them the right to get on the case of those who can't or don't want to join them on track duty. If you put a topic on this forum then it is very probable that it is going to be read by "people like me" who are unable to help in one direction but who can maybe help in another-if I can't work on the track because of some physical disablity, for example, but can maybe sell a few 50/50 tickets or do a piece for the programme, does that make my contribution less valuable because I'm not out on the track?-just because I can't (or won't) do what you do, you are not entitled to automatically assume that contribution (or that of simply coming through the gate and paying your £15+ to watch) is any less valid. I'm not slagging off anybody for their contribution to the cause, but I will certainly get on the case of people assuming because they are doing something to help the Tigers that somehow makes them more entitled to get at others. well said herbie agree 100%
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Post by davie on Jan 19, 2011 18:48:37 GMT 1
the only ones this effects is the ones that say they are going to do it and dont turn up nothing to do with anyone else that is what this is all about , so get the toys back in your pram herbie no one is saying you said you would help so time to end this shite i think
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Post by Dougie on Jan 19, 2011 19:35:16 GMT 1
mick and herbie butt out,well said Davie
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Post by tyretrax on Jan 19, 2011 20:36:19 GMT 1
I thought this was an open forum ?
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Post by jim on Jan 19, 2011 21:58:18 GMT 1
I thought this was an open forum ? You know, so did I, tyretrax. But according to our very own version of the Krankies ( that should surely be spelt "crankies" ) you are only allowed to join in a thread if it affects you personally. A sort of strange view of an internet forum, indeed. Herbie's first response sums up exactly how I feel and there was absolutely no need for the nonsensical, pretty strongly worded and snide replies that this attracted. A few pearls which sprung from The Crankies keyboards on this and other threads in the last couple of days (as if we weren't already aware). "if hes interested in helping but i don't fancy your chances,the lazy *** " ---- when referring to Herbie. "sorry don't responed to **** jokes" "Alright skid marks if thats the way you want to play it wyb" -- I believe that wyb may be an acronym for "watch your back". I note that there was a distinct lack of a smiley. "anymore or the rest of the so called volunteers going to the bar" "A couple of days have gone by,so i take it nobody else is interested.hey ho what a suprise" "mick and herbie butt out" " i dont come on here having a go at anyone " . Amazingly enough, and I'm sure without any sense of irony whatsoever, followed by "so get the toys back in your pram herbie no one is saying you said you would help so time to end this ***** i think" ;D Quality bombing, guys. Bye the way, I added the asterisks. A wee heads up on the ET forum rules which were posted for all to see by the mods. "This is a family forum, available for all to use and bad language is not tolerated. The swear filter is there for a reason. Please do not substitute letters/numbers in a word to try and by pass the swear filter "When you post things, remember that people may not agree with your views. Don't take it personally if they don't" The board rules sort of sum it all up really. And, no, I'm not a Mod. Simply a concerned ET member. No doubt this factual and polite response will be met with the usual vitriol.
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Post by herbie on Jan 19, 2011 22:48:36 GMT 1
You know what, Jim, I always reckon that the more vitriol and abuse you attract when you give an alternative response to the original sentiment posted, the more you have made your point. Defence rests, m'lud.
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Post by bigchaross on Jan 19, 2011 22:52:05 GMT 1
Well Jim I agree with what u have to say as for herbie he is only making some good points without having a go .new season we should talking about how we will do and about the track.putting threats on here to other tiger fans not good come acting like that other mob in the east . Not good folks not good
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